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When All Else Fails - READ THE DIRECTIONS |
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From time to time we receive e-mails and phone calls from customers who, using Media Modifier Products for the first tme, get poor results. The four main reasons that customers get poor results are:
1. Customers add additional Media Modifier products to media that we initially pretreated for them. We try and put the directions on a separate label on the side of the bag informing customers about the media that they purchased.
2. Customers, when using Ultra-60 and their media, do not use a 50-50 mix of walnut media and corn cob media. To date the 50-50 formula works better than any other ratio that we have found. We find that Corn Media Size 10/14 mixed with Walnut Media Size 12/20 does the best job.
3. Customers initially put too much Media Modifier products in the tumbler with their media. We try and put the directions on a separate label on the side of the bag. Less is more with Media Modifier products. For untreated media use no more than 1/4 (1/8th ounce) of the enclosed scoop to to 3 pounds of media. Use 1/2 scoop for 4-6 pounds of media.
4. Many customers rejuvenate media every time they clean dirty cases. Only rejuvenate media when the cleaning process slows down and only use a couple of pinches. Once your media is treated do not use the scoop that we include.
5. It is important that the cases rub against each other to achieve the maximium cleaning
results. That means that you have to have a lot of cases in with the media.
Overall, we are finding that the less is more with Media Modifier products and better results will be achieved. |
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Why Should I Tumble My Cases - They Seem To Work Just Fine? |
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We called Sierra Bullets and spoke with one of the technicians about exactly how we should answer this question.
The case has two main functions. One is to hold the powder, bullet and primer. The other is to seal the back of the barrel (chamber) at the moment of ignition. A dirty case will slide in the chamber and add bolt thrust which can add to the pressure the bolt is withstanding, the result of which is usually a case separation. On the other hand a clean bright case will expand and momentarily adhere to the chamber walls forming a tight seal that actually absorbs some of the energy a dirty case transfers to the bolt. |
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The Firearms Manual I Received With My Firearm Says Don't Use Grease |
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One of the most popular 1911 firearms manufacturers uses Toilz Extremed HD in their custom shop in spite of the fact their manual advises owners not to use grease on their firearms. The firearms manufacturer explained to us that most firearms owners don't know exactly how much grease to put on a firearm and that most firearms owners do not have an ongoing maintenance program schedule to take their gun apart for a good cleaning.
Just put small drops (we call them dots) in the same places you put oil then pull the slide several times to spread the grease. Put HD on the lugs. You can put a drop or two of Extremed HD on your fingers, rub your fingers together to spread the grease, and then rub it on the moving parts of your weapon, the barrel, the barrel bushing, etc.
Just because you cannot see the grease does not mean it is not there. |
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What is the best way to get media out of the primer pocket? |
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Simple - After your clean your brass separate the clean cases from the media and put all of your cleaned cases back into the tumbler WITHOUT THE MEDIA. Put the cover on, put your ear plugs in your ears, and turn your tumbler on for 5 minutes. You will not believe how that little tumbler will shake out all of that media remaining in those cases. It works whether you have your primers removed or not.
If you never cleaned your primer pockets and you have reloaded your cases numerous times it is hard to say how long it will take to get them clean since you probably glazed the carbon on the inside of the primer pocket. But once you have gotten the primer pocket to the point where you are satisfied with the way they look you need to clean them every time in the future to maintain minimum tumbler time. |
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What do they mean when the say a media is size 14/20? |
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We received an e-mail from a prominent writer from one of the top firearms magazines asking what does 14/20 mean when describing the size of media.
After media is ground it goes through a series of screens to separate the different size media.
In the case of 14/20 the 14 designates that the media is going through a screen that has 196 holes per square inch (14x14=196) and the 20 designates the screen size per square inch (20x20=400) that the media rests on after going through the 14x14 size screen above. |
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Is there a mix of brass to media that works best? |
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Try and achieve an agressive looking "Niagra Falls" effect where the brass falls towards the center of the tumbler. You should see all or most of the top side of the case that is on the surface of the media as it is tumbling towards the center.
Up to a size .308 case, depending on your tumbler, a pound of cases to a pound of media.
Once the cases get over size .308 you will have to do some experimenting. |
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Tumble that brass before you tumble that brass |
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| Those of you that purchased a brass/media separator made a wise decision. That separator is a glorified brass tumbler. The first tumbling you should do with your brass is with the separator. There is so much dirt on and in that brass that two or three minutes in the separator can save you cleaning time and improve the life of your media. And for those who are not in possession of a separator can use your vibratory tumbler. Put only your brass in the tumbler (no media), put the lid on, and let the tumbler run for two or three minutes. You will get the same results as if you had a separator. Put this suggestion to the test. After tumbling the brass without media, empty the brass, and whatever other material is remaining in the tumbler, into either a foudry sieve, a mesh strainer or colander and see what drops out the bottom. And, if you really want to extend the life of your media after a cleaning or polishing cycle you can pour your media and cleaned brass into that same foundry sieve, strainer or colander to eliminate all types of debris as well as media that has worn down during he cleaning process. |
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Who makes the best tumbler? |
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| All of the tumblers are good. We are not just saying to eliminate a dispute with the manufacturers. We have our favorites, everybody does. We started testing to see how we could make all of the tumblers competitive with each other, and we did. Learn how to use your tumbler to its maximum performance. |
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Treated medias leave residue in my tumbler. What can I do about it? |
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| When developing our products we concerned ourselves with this issue. If you follow directions and start out using our products sparingly the residue issue will be minimal. Using more Media Modifier products than we recommend does not promise a better cleaning and polishing result. With Media Modifier products less is more. |
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| Pretreated medias will leave substantial residue on your tumbler bowl. This happens for two reasons. First - pretreated media is super-saturated with treatment products before you ever purchase it, so you never have control over the amount of media treatment product is really necessary to add to your media to put a great finish on your brass . Second - the tumbler bowl gets warm from the electric motor and the pretreatment in turn warms up and sticks to the tumbler bowl. Fortunately, when Media Modifier™ products are used as directed, the residue problem becomes minimal, if any residue at all. Remember less is more. By treating your own media you can effectively manage any residue problem and, at the same time, achieve better results than you can obtain with pretreated media at an extremely cost effective price. |
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